Group: alt.education
From: Martin Phipps
Date: Saturday, October 06, 2007 5:32 AM
Subject: Re: A sampling of PhDs who reject evolution

On Oct 6, 12:06 pm, Dave Oldridge
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> >> Martin Phipps wrote in
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> >> > On Oct 4, 4:06 pm, Dave Oldridge
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> >> >> Al Klein wrote
> >> >> innews:cmr5g3d2934gell8825cj8ghrbs83qfr08@ :
> >> >> > On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 03:43:52 GMT, Dave Oldridge
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >>Al Klein wrote in
> >> >> >>news:f1r1g3dht930al0ej90au2h3u8dt9mrvvr@ :
> >> >> >>> On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 00:06:00 GMT, Dave Oldridge
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> >> >> >>>>Not all of reality is objective at all times.
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> >> >> >>> Reality exists whether there's someone to realize it or not,
> >> >> >>> so you're either wrong, or you're redefining 'objective'.
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> >> >> >>Well, one person's objective may well seem non-existent to
> >> >> >>another.
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> >> >> > Only if you redefine "objective evidence".
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> >> >> And you HAVE done so, defining it as only that evidence which can
> >> >> be presented to YOU, NOW.
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> >> > You're a liar. Objectivity exists as long as reality exists and
> >> > denying reality is solipism.
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> >> Now there's a thought. How much of our reality is really real and how
> >> much do we create with out thoughts? Ever really ponder that right
> >> down to the core? There's some interesting cognitive territory down
> >> there if you do.
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> > Until you realize thoughts don't create reality.
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> Can you be absolutely sure of that?

What we think is real may seem real but it has absolutely nothing to
do with what other people experience unless it IS real.

Martin