Group: rec.sport.football.college
From: rich hammett
Date: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: Another evolution theory whackjob

Minun olisi pitänyt tietää, olisi pitänyt tietää,
olisi pitänyt tietää KUKA SINÄ OLET, stephenj:
> Constance Reeder wrote:
>> On 2008-02-09, stephenj wrote:
>>
>>>Trevor Zion Bauknight wrote:
>>>
>>>>stephenj wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>OrangeDood wrote:
>>>>>possibly. lots of stupid things have been taught in classrooms. the
>>>>>issue is whether teaching a particular thing is unconstitutional.
>>>>
>>>>Not really. It's whether it's okay to tax people to teach a particular
>>>>thing or use public monies to teach a particular thing. It is not okay
>>>>to pay for the teaching of strictly religious views with taxpayer money.
>>>>Why you think it is is a mystery.
>>>
>>>the enactors of the 1st amendment, and then the 14th amendment, thought
>>>it was okay to teach creationism in public schools. that's a good enough
>>>reason, eh?

>> No, not hardly.

> ?

>> Otherwise you end up like the Muslims, who figure there
>> has been no learning since the 7th century.

> er, ee, um ...

>> I believe the founding fathers gave us a strong clue that they believed
>> there would be some learning and the opportunity to change our minds on
>> what is right. You mention that clue above -- the amendment process.

> Yes, the founders were well aware that changing circumstances could
> provide later generations with knowledge they didn't have, and thus
> wisely included an amendment procedure so we could take advantage of
> that knowledge.

> And when the constitution is amended to ban the teaching of creationism
> in public schools, then i and everyone else with a functioning brain
> will agree that doing so is .. unconstitutional.

> but not until then.


Odd...I think you don't really think that. You really don't think
that something can be recognized as a purely religious fairy tale
and that might change the status of that bit of "education" in
the constitutional system?

rich

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